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Secularization of Religious Symbols

By MC Pickard
Wednesday, Aug 13 2008, 01:21 PM

This is an interesting argument that I had not thought of before.

Americans United for Church and State Separation (AU) is in a legal battle with the Utah Highway Patrol Association for erecting 12-foot crosses on the sites where state troopers have died while on duty.

AU Director, Minister Barry Lind argues that:

"The cross is the preeminent symbol of Christianity... for the government to claim that the cross is a secular symbol is deeply offensive and betrays a poor understanding of religion and our Constitution.”

This current counter-lawsuit is on the heels of a 2007 ruling that the cross was no longer just a religious symbol but became a “secular symbol of death” after the group, American Atheists, sued on the grounds that this was a state preference of religion. These crosses are erected on public, taxpayer owned land. The court, instead of passing a ruling that would be inline with the First Amendment, decided to change the meaning of the cross.

"Roberts held up pictures of telephone poles and showed a clip from Ben Casey, the 1960s TV medical drama. In it, Dr. David Zorba uses the cross as a generic symbol for death."
I'm sorry, but no one, looks at the cross and thinks Dr. David Zorba and Ben Casey. Lind observes that "this conclusion is historically inaccurate, blind to contemporary realities, and offensive to believers and nonbelievers alike.Christianity is the context of the cross. Unless you're from Mars, I don't see how you conclude it as anything but Christianity.

A secular authority should not be messing around with peoples faith, which this 2007 ruling now allows.The undeniable Christian iconoclast, James Madison makes the case in a letter to Edward Livington, "...that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together." The AU shares this long-established American view that government should not be in the business of interfering with the practice of religion by interpreting its meanings and significance.

This does not mean that we should not commemorate the sacrifice of these officers lives. If accommodations have been made for a Jewish officer, then why not accommodate the First Amendment? What about the non-religious or those of other non-Christian faiths? It's like teaching creationism in science class, should we then teach the countless other creation stories as well?

I would think that other Christians would support the AU in this, especially if they believe in the price that Jesus paid for sin. And if the 2007 ruling is correct, then already much of the meaning behind the cross has been lost.

So the question is, will you allow your government to secularize your religious symbols?

(AU Source)


(Newsweek Article)

 

Comments

Jeff Blackwell   

The fact is that bringing the church into the realm of government is equally disastrous for both.

August 13, 2008 3:56 PM

jmark   

Had the officers died by crucifixion the symbols would be appropriate.

Be careful, your messing with the Christians most sacred form of capital punishment.

August 13, 2008 4:19 PM

LiberalHammer   

MC - Why do you hate jesus?

August 13, 2008 6:13 PM

Prima   

I'm not sure why they don't honor them by putting up a gold shield/star  which would better serve someone who died in the line of duty.  Nevermind, the fact that if, for the sake of argument, that a Jewish officer died in the line of duty AND they put up a Star of David , I have so little faith in so many that claim to be christian that I can just picture the vandalism.  Nice way to honor someone who died in the line of duty, of course.

Completely off topic:  I owe you an apology, jmark.  I think I had lumped you in with our favorite conservatives in another thread when I think you were being facetious as opposed to agreeing with them over in one of Jeff's posts a while back.  Mea culpa!  

August 13, 2008 6:38 PM

jmark   

Prima, no problem.

August 14, 2008 8:57 AM

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About MC Pickard

Primary interest is where religion intersects with the state, issues like evolution, creationism, science, and gay marriage. I am passionate about science, reason and believing in as many true thing as possible. I am critical of religion, skeptical of woo in general. My tertiary interests include city and urban development, art, design, weightlifting, and I can not get enough of Brewers or Packers coverage. I've also been an ordained Minister with the ULC since 5/2007.

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