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Voter Fraud? No Evidence According to GOP

By MC Pickard
Tuesday, Nov 4 2008, 11:52 AM

The narrative being pushed by McCain and his supporters is there is an overwhelming conspiracy of voter fraud being perpetuated by ACORN and liberals in this election.

The evidence?

Ronald Michaelson, a veteran election administrator and member of the McCain-Palin Honest and Open Election Committee states:

“Do we have a documented instance of voting fraud that resulted from a phony registration form? No, I can’t cite one, chapter and verse,” he said.

Furthermore:

Michaelson could not cite a single real example of how registration fraud has led to voting fraud.  

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Republican elected officials and lawyers for state Republican parties have made similar claims in court and in statements to the press. So far, however, they have failed to provide significant supporting evidence.

A review of prosecutors’ statements and documents filed by Republicans in the most serious new cases alleging voter fraud shows that none offer an example in which a fraudulently registered person managed to cast a valid vote. While several cases argue that such frauds are possible, none sketched a scenario for how massive numbers of people could fake registrations and then vote.

Perhaps they should heed Michaelson's advice while they are perpetuating this suspicion:

Michaelson explained why the mere perception of widespread fraud can do public harm: “When reports are circulating in the media that this one group has turned in 5,000 applications and 2,000 of them are invalid, for the minimally informed voter, they say, ‘Oh my gosh, what’s happening to our process? Our process is lacking integrity.’ It just plants seeds of doubt in the minds of people who don’t understand the process very well.

“That’s just not a very healthy atmosphere,” he said.

While John McCain and Sarah Palin and Republican members of the blogs at Lake Country Living continue to allege fraud by liberals no less, they are doing so without solid, factual evidence which is proportionate to the immensity that such a conspiracy would require.

In fact, if this election does turn-out to be close (I think it will be), they've only undermined John McCain, and not Barack Obama.

Meaning, they are only hurting McCain's credibility – not Obama's.

So you can rightly ignore their accusations and that these McCain supporters are, at best, "minimally informed."

I'll leave you to determine what "at worse" they are. 

(Source)
 

Comments

Victor Ponelis   

Watch for claims of voter fraud if Obama wins, and vindication if McCain wins.

Ah, selective perspective.  It keeps those wingnuts wing-nuttier...

BTW:  You'll be wrong.  This will be a massive Democratic landslide.

November 4, 2008 12:45 PM

LiberalHammer   

Jeezz! Don't you guys know the the GOP is liberaly biased!

November 4, 2008 12:53 PM

Ellen Cherry Charles   

Victor--don't count your chickens before they've hatched.  I seem to recall a predicted Democratic landslide (or at least victory) in 2004, because heck, there was NO WAY that fool Dubya could be re-elected, right?

November 4, 2008 12:53 PM

LiberalHammer   

Well, The GOP tried to steal it in Florida and then had GW Kinged by the Supreme Court.

   In 2004 they stole it in Ohio with a massive election fraud orchestrated by Karl Rove and his newly "loyal bushy" justice department.

  I tend to agree that the GOP will use these techniquues, a pattern that has evolved in their expertise at election fraud or in the least to try to tamper down the mandate the Obama will be given.

 Beleive me the hatred from the right will be even more inflamed by a Obama victory! Unfourtunatly, we'll have to deal with it on LCL blogs with our resident "Rightwing Iquisition."

November 4, 2008 1:01 PM

MC Pickard   

@Victor: I'll gladly buy you a beer if I'm wrong!

@LiberalHammer: Hehe... why stop at the GOP? How about manufactures of blue shirts? I bet Obama's grandma dying yesterday is part of the conspiracy against conservatives.

@Ellen: I thought Kerry had a good chance and while Scrub ain't such a good president, he and his team are masterful politicians. My recollection though is most liberals and democrats thought the election was going to be close - which it was. Obama has something that Kerry or McCain do not have - grassroots organization which has turned even traditional red states, questionable.

November 4, 2008 1:15 PM

jmark   

Can you vote more that once if you have multiple personalities?  

November 4, 2008 2:58 PM

tstone   

Wake up little man. The Republican Party is a decent party and they are not the “lie and hate” liberal party that destroys anyone who doesn’t go along with their thinking. Most Republicans are good Americans and forgiving Christians. But more important is the fact that the GOP is not the FBI! The FBI is who found all the recent voter fraud. Did you forget the illegal voter fraud here in Milwaukee during the Gore and then the Kerry campaign? You look old enough to remember.

November 4, 2008 3:14 PM

jmark   

The Rate of Substantiated Voter Fraud:

• The allegations of voter fraud related to the 2004 general elections, in which 277,565 votes were cast in

Milwaukee, and 2,997,007 votes were cast in all of Wisconsin.

• There were 7 substantiated cases of individuals knowingly casting invalid votes—all persons with felony convictions.

This amounts to a rate of 0.0025% within Milwaukee and 0.0002% within the state as a whole.

None of these problems could have been resolved by requiring photo ID at the polls.

brennan.3cdn.net/e20e4210db075b482b_wcm6ib0hl.pdf

Let the right wing nuts enjoy their delusions.

November 4, 2008 4:24 PM

LiberalHammer   

tstone - Call me a traitor and treasonous to our virtual faces. You sniveling coward!

November 4, 2008 7:10 PM

LiberalHammer   

Tstone - Let your hatred burn you from the inside. I'm not a christian but if you say you are, I'm glad your a small minority of hateful little men. coward, have some balls!

November 4, 2008 7:15 PM

LiberalHammer   

MC - I have finally come clean and told Jim and the rightwing trollsour secret that i am you in spandex.

November 4, 2008 8:25 PM

LiberalHammer   

Socialist paradise here we come.

  Health care for all Americans at least until their 18, affordable college, middle class tax cuts, re-regulation of the financial industry, pull-out from Iraq, etc....

November 4, 2008 8:42 PM

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About MC Pickard

Primary interest is where religion intersects with the state, issues like evolution, creationism, science, and gay marriage. I am passionate about science, reason and believing in as many true thing as possible. I am critical of religion, skeptical of woo in general. My tertiary interests include city and urban development, art, design, weightlifting, and I can not get enough of Brewers or Packers coverage. I've also been an ordained Minister with the ULC since 5/2007.

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