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Ed - Good Blog.

 Although, the ripping and mocking and laughing at community organizers that usually help out poor minority neighborhoods was a terrible mistake.

  One that has been coming back to highlight, if anything to look like a mean spirited attack no only on Obama, but those who do grass roots community organizing.

  Whatever validity that was in that argument is now moot to non-rightwing partisians.

LH…The so called “ripping and mocking and laughing at community organizers” is not true. The “ripping and mocking and laughing at community organizers” was towards those that think they are community organizers, but end up doing nothing. If you were involved for all the years in community organizations like I am, you would know that there are way too many of these “fakes” and “do nothings” in those organizations (Michelle and Barack?). The RNC just pointed out those that are in that category. However, what I find most intersecting with your comment, and most other liberal hardballers, is that the RNC had substance as to what McCain stands for. Obama was fluff again. No wonder his own party keeps begging him to let us all know what his “hope and change” are all about.

Here’s a letter to the DNC form a Community organizer:

What A Community Organizer Thinks About Barack Obama & Sarah Palin

Today I am pleased to present the first post by the Countess! She writes:

I’ve been immensely entertained by the emails I’ve been receiving from the Democrat Party (yes, I’m on their email list) since Palin’s speech at the Republican National Convention.  The Dems are, apparently, very upset about Giuliani’s and Palin’s mocking comments about Barack Obama’s community organizing experience.  The Dems understand these comments as “attacking ordinary people” (from the 9/4/08 email from democraticparty@democrats.org).  They write, “With the nation watching, the Republicans mocked, dismissed, and actually laughed out loud at Americans who engage in community service and organizing.”

Really?  I have a masters degree with a concentration in community development.  Community organizing is “my thing.”  And yet somehow I don’t feel insulted by Palin’s comments.  Why?  Because I’m not obtuse enough to think that she is devaluing what “everyday Americans” — or paid community development workers or missionaries or campaign volunteers — do.  She is highlighting the relative weakness of a resumé item that the Obama campaign has made a big deal about.  Barack and Michelle Obama have repeatedly mentioned Barack’s “sacrifice” in choosing to do community organizing (which he says he only did for 3 years).  I heard Michelle Obama say in one speech that no other candidate in this election had sacrificed so much as Obama had by doing this type of work.  I guess 5 years as a prisoner of war after being shot down while serving in your country’s armed forces doesn’t qualify.

As someone who has been around a lot of community organizing types, I can attest that we can often be a self-righteous bunch.  We are all about saving the world, right?  How dare someone make fun of THAT!  Well, when you think that your 3 years of community organizing (when, Lord knows, you could have been raking in the dough at some big law firm after your Ivy League degree) is a major qualification for you to be president, while maintaining that Sarah Palin’s executive experience as mayor of a small town and governor of Alaska do not qualify her to be VICE-president –- you deserve to be mocked.  Obama has been quick to point out that his community organizing stint was just one little resumé item, one which was followed by his (more impressive?) jobs, like working as a lawyer, teaching constitutional law, and being in the state legislature.  (My mom, by the way, was in the legislature in her state, and I think she managed to pull off a more impressive record there than Obama did during his term in Illinois!) And yet, he had obviously been emphasizing the community organizing so much in his own campaign that it was worth referencing in multiple Republican convention speeches — and everyone listening immediately understood the reference.

So, I suggest that Democrats stop whining about how the Republicans have mocked their candidate’s community organizing  and start worrying about how un-ready he is to be president.  Oh, wait – I guess they’re already worried, or they wouldn’t be whining in the first place.

Ed...well done. It's too bad most of America knows little about all of the greatness in John, Sarah and their spouses.

Ed,

I also liked McCain’s speech over Obama’s.  It had content and truth. Not ideologies filled with nothing.  McCain’s best part was his telling America how inexperienced Obama is ( a job for the msm perhaps?) and more importantly how McCain will stop sending the billions of dollars to countries that hate America:  the ones that liberals, like Obama and Hollywood, love to have tea and biscuits with.

LH:  Thanks!  That some people mistakenly think that her attack was against anybody, but Obama does not surprise me.  Today, people try to read what they want into anything.  This is the same problem that I have with always having to be politically correct.  It is nearly impossible.  But I admire her ability to hit the target with her accurate shots just the same.

Jim:  Thanks!  And nice add with the letter from the Countess.  It's amazing how far the dumocrats will go to twist words and meanings.

Billy J.:  How true.  Also, I deleted your mistaken comment.

Ed:  I wasn't very happy that McCain was picked to be the Republican nominee for President.  However as time has passed, I have found him to be very admirable.  He does speak his mind and stands up for what he believes in.  His choice of Sarah Palin really won me over.  I feel better about voting for him in November and think that Palin could become the first woman to sit in the Oval Office.  She seems to be the female version of Ronald Reagan.  The conservative party has gotten back on track and is headed for great things.  Witness how apoplectic the left has gotten regarding the McCain/Palin ticket!  Republicans must be doing something "right"!!!

Ed and Jim,

 Just watch when Palin and Guliani made their mock comments on Community Organizers, listen to the GOP mob laugh their assess off.

 Jim - Your a dishonest, lying, ethic-less, trying to prove he's not a liberal anymore, conservative wanna-be. You bore me, now move along.

Amy:  I think that we, like many conservatives, had reservations about McCain potentially being too liberal to represent our party.  As we have been able to learn more about him, we've found out that he has felt strongly enough about certain issues that he has paired up with some very liberal Democrats over the years to try to make things happen.  One of the impressive results from this is that the Democratic leaders that he has worked with refuse to say anything bad about him, and instead talk about his readiness to lead and how much they like to work with him.

LH:  I admit that I laughed out loud at both of their comments.  Giuliani I expected to do what he did, but Palin caught me off guard.  She truly surpassed my expectations.

Ed - So you think community orginiziation is something to be laughed at?

LH:  I think that Palin's comment directed specifically at Obama, as it was, is something to be laughed at, chuckled to, guffawed about every time you need a laugh.  Remember this remark was directed specifically at one person trying to use his "expertise" as a community organizer as a selling point, when the truth is he accomplished barely more that he did as a Senator.

Ed - Obama words, “It’s curious to me that they would mock that, when I, at least, think that that’s exactly what young people should be doing.

“I worked with churches, who were dealing with steel plants that had closed in their neighborhoods, to set up job training programs for the unemployed and after-school programs for youth, and to try to deal with asbestos in homes with poor people — community service work — which John McCain has been talking about, putting country first and extolling the virtues of national service. I would think that’s what we want all our young people to do. I would think that that’s an area where Democrats and Republicans would agree.”  

 Source: www.crooksandliars.com/.../this-week-obama-responds-to-gop-community-organizer-insults

 My source is biased, but the quote is orginial.

 Take 1 part of his resume and mock it, Maybe the left should laugh at and mock Sarah Palin's work with the PTA how about her Beauty Queen Status? I guess she was in the Salvation army, she must be qualified to lead the armed forces?

Source: www.nndb.com/.../000118491

 The community organizer mocking of Obama is a strawman fallacy:

Sources: www.nizkor.org/.../straw-man.html

www.asa3.org/.../strawman.htm

LH:  I agree, more people should become involved in community service.  The part that's worth mocking is that Obama only accomplished one of the many things he was supposed to be working on during the entire time he was there.  As for mocking Sarah Palin, the media and many democrats have been doing that since she was named VP candidate.  The difference is that I think she can take it.