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Obama Tax Cut Fallacy

By Ed Furey
Wednesday, Oct 15 2008, 11:37 AM
Barrack Obama is using the “Kitchen Sink” appeal on taxes allowing him to pose as a middle class tax cutter.  Posing is something Obama does well; after all he has posed as a US Senator while campaigning for President for most of his term.  Kitchen Sink means that he is promising tax cuts for everything and everyone.  Let’s combine that with the billions of dollars needed for the government programs that he wants to implement or expand.  Unless you are completely ignorant, common sense will tell you this is not possible.   One of Obama’s biggest campaign promises is that he’ll cut taxes for 95% of working families.  Hell, who wouldn’t love a promise like that?  Remember Bill Clinton, he made similar tax cut promises and less than a year later American taxpayers got the bill for Clinton’s reality.  So how does Obama back up this 95% claim?  Since 33% of tax filers pay no taxes it’s not possible to cut their taxes.    Remember when Clinton tried to change the definition of what “is” is?  The same thing is happening here.  Obama is trying to change the meaning of what a tax cut is.  To me, a tax cut means I get to keep more of what I earn.  Obama wants to change the definition to include billions of dollars in government handouts.  These handouts are cleverly disguised with the more acceptable name “tax credit.”  If you follow all the small print you could qualify for one or more of these credits, but you will have to buy the cars they tell you to buy, purchase the insurance they tell you to, see the doctors they tell you to, go to the schools they tell you to and so on.  Most people will not be in a position to earn these credits, but they don’t want to tell you that.  Even non-taxpayers can earn these and this is accomplished by shifting income from taxpayers to non-taxpayer in the form of welfare checks. A recent analysis by the Wall Street Journal also suggests that the Obama plan would be a disincentive to work harder.  Here is a chart that illustrates that as a family works more to make more money, they lose much larger percentages of their income for each dollar earned. Obama’s current tax plan is being compared to that of Herbert Hoover, a plan that plunged us deeper in to the Great Depression.  What is similar is that Obama proposes greater taxes for investors and the “wealthy”.  These are the people that provide the employment for most Americans.  Below is a listing of some of his proposed tax increases:  
  • To Increase the top individual income tax rate by 13% and the second individual income tax rate by 10%.
  • To Increase the capital gains tax rate by 33%.
  • To Increase the tax rate on dividends by 33%.
  • To raise the top payroll tax rate by between 16%-32%.
  • New payroll tax on employers to help pay for national health insurance.
  • Reinstatement of the death tax, which is being phased out under current law, with a new top marginal tax rate of 45%.
  • Protectionist trade policies and higher tariff taxes.

The result of all of these increases would be lower employment, less money being reinvested and many businesses closing.  At least we won’t have to worry about our taxes.  Oh yeah, about our taxes.  Most people will see a large tax increase under Obama’s tax plan.  It’s the only way he can accomplish his goals.

 

God forbid that you are successful in the age of Obama’s tax plan.  He wants to take the money that you’ve earned and “spread the wealth around, it’s good for everyone.”  Here is a link to a short video that shows you just what Obama thinks of anybody that works hard to be successful. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNuqV7N_bj0

 “Spread the wealth around” is Obama’s economic philosophy and is part of Socialism.  "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed "more and more for fulfilling the American dream."   Obama responds with, "It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too.  My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."   His entire plan is wealth redistribution accomplished by increasing taxes on most taxpayers.

This is the type of tax help that most Americans can’t afford and would flush our economy down that kitchen sink’s drain.

Comments

jmark   

Your "facts":

"To Increase the capital gains tax rate by 33%."

Obama's Factsheet:

"Capital Gains: Families with incomes below $250,000 will continue to pay the capital gains rates that they pay today. For those in the top two income tax brackets – likewise adjusted to affect only families over $250,000 – Obama will create a new top capital gains rate of 20 percent."

Seems to be a discrepancy here.

Your "facts":

Reinstatement of the death tax, which is being phased out under current law, with a new top marginal tax rate of 45%.

Obama's Factsheet:

Estate Tax: The estate tax would be effectively repealed for 99.7 percent of estates. For the remaining 0.3% of estates over $7 million per couple, Obama will retain a rate of 45%. This policy

would cut the number of estates covered by the tax by 84 percent relative to 2000.

Sorry, but I just can't feel any sympathy for the wealthiest 0.3%

October 15, 2008 12:57 PM

Ed Furey   

My posting is based on analysis provided by The Wall Street Journal, The Tax Foundation, The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis, The Tax Policy Center and good old common sense.  The Obama fact sheet is only designed to make Socialism sound appealing.  Joe the Plumber may become the best secret weapon against the tax and spend as usual Democrats.  This I believe is a mistake from Obama, letting it slip that he is indeed promoting Socialism.  The more we learn about Obama, the more suspect he becomes.

Here is more from Joe the Plumber.  www.youtube.com/watch

October 15, 2008 1:31 PM

jmark   

Take a few sound bites, paint a false picture. It would have been nice to hear Obama's response in it's entirety. Fair and unbalanced as usual.

October 15, 2008 4:44 PM

Disgusted   

The more posts I read by you, the more disheartened I become about our society.  Nobody is promoting Socialism.  You have yourself worked into a frenzy of misconceptions.

October 15, 2008 9:40 PM

Ed Furey   

It was extremely telling in the final debate, when Obama wouldn't deny his "spread the wealth" Socialist agenda, and he was given several opportunities.  Here again is more of Joe the Plumber.  www.youtube.com/watch

October 16, 2008 6:13 AM

Disgusted   

It's all about spin.  You can take ANYTHING and make it sound the way you want.

October 16, 2008 7:44 AM

David Otto   

Ed, here is The fact: Obama is no socialist he is firmly in The capitolist party. What he is bit for and its sounds like you are is unregulated, undemocratic and repressive capitolisim. I invite all of you no regulation  no shardd responcability people to let the  so called free market rule to drop your health insurance auto insurance home and life insurance IRA accounts 401ks refuse your social security benifits Medicare benifits and never enter an emercancy room unless you can pay your bill then and there. Only then will you see how horible your capitolism is, colectivism has allowed you to have the life style you have stop being so worried that the lowe class finally is finding a voice.

October 16, 2008 8:49 AM

Ed Furey   

The Truth Be Known, Obama will Even TAX The Little Guy

If you work for a living...Watch Out !

Playing the typical game of class warfare.

For months Obama has been saying that only the rich will see higher taxes. Watch the following Youtube video from Oct 13, 2008. A plumber (not some Wall Street fat cat) asks Obama:

Plumber: " Your new tax plan is going to tax me, won't it, doesn't it"

Obama: "It not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they got a chance at success too. I think when you spread the wealth around, it is good for everybody"

www.youtube.com/watch

This plumber works for a living. He most likely doesn't have a chauffer driven limo, or a $30 million yacht that he parks in the South of France. He is most likely just the typical working class guy who you might see tail-gating at a ballgame. He is like so many average Americans who tries to keep up with his bills. So who does he have an advantage over ?...... The person who doesn't work or doesn't pay taxes. Maybe this plumber would be better off if he would just stop working!! Then somebody else could pay his way!

Don't Fall For The Class Warfare Tactic

The problem with Socialism is that 'spreading the wealth' costs more than all the revenues generated from taxing the hell out of all those 'The Rich Folks'. Eventually the tax revenue shortfall most come from additional taxes on EVERY working person!

More than 33% of tax filers don't pay taxes now.  This means that you are taking taxes from some and sending a check to those that don't pay taxes.  This is income redistribution - wealth redistribution.  What is the incentive to work hard to try to be a success?  

This is Socialism at its core!  

October 16, 2008 12:57 PM

David Otto   

Ed I feel sorry for you measuring your worth based on how much money you have and your selfishness to keep it all to your self. Once you realize we are all our brothers and sisters keepers and we fall and rise together you may be happier. Also when will capitolists realize regans vodu economics did not work will not work and are what is causing our current problems. Society simply can not exist with our current disparity in resources of wealth why are you so accepting of a wealth ruiling class that has no work ethic at all telling you your not worth a real living wage? There is that money thing it's like a carrot and tour the turtle.

October 16, 2008 1:54 PM

Ed Furey   

David:  Let's say your way happens.  What incentive do I have to go to college or even to get a job.  I could be just like you and sit on my lazy ass and collect my unemployment check and my new "spread the wealth around" welfare check, because the government will take care of me.  Is that the American dream that has inspired you?  That sounds about right.

October 16, 2008 3:36 PM

Disgusted   

Ed, seeing how much time you spend blogging, I'm guessing you spend a lot of time on your lazy a*%.

October 16, 2008 3:40 PM

David Otto   

You could not be further away from the truth. I  work two jobs an average of 60 hours a week I pay about 43% in taxes and social security benifits. I have no problem with this at all while I hope that I will be able to work less sooner or later I feel we are all in on this togather, even if it helps you Ed.

October 16, 2008 4:45 PM

David Otto   

why have you not posted by responce? Are you trying to slander me or can you not belive that not only do I work hard but also am liberal.

October 17, 2008 10:53 AM

Ed Furey   

David:  Sorry.  Everyday is different for me.  Some days I have the time to look at this stuff several times, and other times I can go for 2 days to a week before getting to this.  You are also one of those that comment on my posts that I don't mind.  You have a difference of opinion and try to explain it.  On this subject my opposition is adamant.  Socialism and spreading the wealth is wrong.  If someone else works hard enough to have some measure of financial success, why should someone in government have the ability to decide what that level is and take it from that person to give to somebody else.  Somebody else that may not be doing a damn thing.  Who decides how much is too much?  What's to stop them from changing that level.  If this is the change that Obamanation is hoping for, you can keep the change.

October 17, 2008 1:18 PM

Amy L. Geiger-Hemmer   

Ed:  Socialism will never work. It never has.  Nor has communism.  The United States was founded as a capitalist nation.  Obama is calling for an end to capitalism clearly from his response to Joe the Plumber.  Joe the Plumber was able to get an honest answer out of Obama that our media seems to be incapable of doing.  Libs see this as a major blunder and are trying to discredit Joe (which is not surprising) AND still say that Obama is not a socialist.  The words came out of Obama's mouth, folks.  "Spread the wealth".  Socialism at its finest. The problem with socialism is that it looks at our money supply as stagnant.  To get a bigger piece of the pie, one has to take from someone else.  Yet, our money (and opportunities) is not stagnant.  Everyone can make more if they are willing to work hard and strive to improve themselves.  America is the land of opportunity.  We are the greatest nation on the face of the planet - and we are good.  Capitalism is freedom.  One cannot be free if one is dependent on the government.

October 19, 2008 1:02 PM

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About Ed Furey

My name is Ed Furey.  I am a married, father of two boys that lives in the Town of Eagle and the Mukwonago Area School District.  I am very involved with youth sports.  I design and sell wireless systems that allow companies to communicate voice, data and video wirelessly. I will be writing about national and local items that irritate, interest or excite me. I am opinionated and not always politically correct, but I don't take everything too seriously either.

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